FXUS02 KWBC 061848 PMDEPD EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 147 PM EST TUE JAN 06 2009 VALID 12Z FRI JAN 09 2009 - 12Z TUE JAN 13 2009 PATTERN CHANGE UNDERWAY TO A +PNA PATTERN THIS PERIOD OVER NOAM BECOMING ESTABLISHED AROUND DAYS 4-5 SAT/SUN AS RIDGING BUILDS IN THE ERN PAC AND A TROF FORMS OVER THE ERN HALF OF CONUS. TYPICAL DIFFERENCES OCCUR BETWEEN MODEL SOLUTIONS HANDLING SHORTWAVE ENERGY COMING INTO THE WEST COAST AND SWRN CONUS EARLY IN THE PERIOD AND AGAIN LATER AS ENERGY COMES OVER THE TOP OF THE EPAC/WRN CONUS RIDGE. PLACEMENT OF THE MEAN TROF OVER THE ERN HALF TO THIRD OF CONUS BECOMES UNCERTAIN AS THE EPAC/WRN CONUS RIDGE ESTABLISHES ITSELF. THE POSITIVE HT ANOMALY LOCATION AND RIDGE AXIS BECOMES CRITICAL AS TO THE LOCATION OF THE DOWNSTREAM TROF...CLOSER TO THE WEST COAST THE MORE EWD THE DOWNSTREAM TROF. BY LATE PERIOD 00Z OP GFS AMPLIFIES ITS DOWNSTREAM TROF ALONG 100W WITH ITS ENS MEAN CLOSER TO 85W. OP 00Z ECMWF HAS ITS OP TROF ALONG 85W WHILE ITS ENS MEAN IS CLOSER TO 90W. BUT THE 00Z ECMWF SHIFTS ITS EPAC RIDGE TO ALONG THE CA COAST WHICH IS LOGICAL. AN OFFSHORE TELECONNECTION OF THE RIDGE TO NR 50N 135W SUGGEST A MORE WWD MID NATION TROF AS PER 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN WHILE THE GFS ENS MEAN IS TOO FAR EAST. THIS ALL REMAINS UNCERTAIN AND POSSIBLY JUST TRANSIENT AS THE LONGER TERM MEANS BY DAYS 8-9 SUGGEST KEEPING THE RIDGING ALONG 130W WHICH TELECONNECTS TO A MEAN TROF AXIS IN THE MS VALLEY ALONG 90W AND BOTH GFS AND ECMWF ENS MEANS SUGGEST KEEPING THIS MEAN TROF IN THIS AREA. THIS UNCERTAINTY LEADS US TO A USE OF THE OP 00Z ECMWF FOR DAYS 3-5 BLENDING IN A SIG PORTION OF THE ECMWF 00Z ENS MEAN DAYS 6 AND 7 MON/TUES. 12Z MODEL GUIDANCE GFS/CMC/UKMET VARY SIGNIFICANTLY ESPECIALLY HANDLING NERN PAC ENERGY IN THE GLFAK AS 12Z GFS BODILY DRIVES THE EPAC RIDGE AXIS UP ALONG THE CANADIAN/SERN AK COAST BY DAY 6 WHICH SHARPENS THE RIDGE AND ALLOWS FOR A MORE N-S FLOW DRIVING ITS JET AXIS DUE SWD THRU THE FOUR CORNERS REGION WHILE PICKING UP THE SWRN CONUS SHORTWAVE AND TAKING IT NEWD INTO TX AND CARVING OUT ANOTHER SEPERATE CLOSED LOW OVER NWRN MEXICO BY DAY 7....VERY DIFFERENT FROM ITS PRIOR RUN. ITS 12Z GFS ENS MEAN ORIENTS ITS DOWNSTREAM TROF FOR DAYS 6 AND 7 WELL WWD OF ITS PRIOR RUN AND WWD OF THE 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN BUT LEAVES ITS OFFSHORE RIDGE AXIS CLOSER TO THE ORIENTATION OF PRIOR GFS AND ECMWF ENS MEANS. UKMET LEAVES BACK ALTOGETHER THE CLOSED SWRN CONUS SHORTWAVE IN THE NRN GLFCA WHILE KEEPING THE MAIN DOWNSTREAM TROF EWD ALONG 80W BY DAY 6. CMC FOLLOWS ITS PRIOR CONTINUITY AND LOOKS SIMILAR TO THE 12Z GFS THRU 144 HRS. 12Z ECMWF FOLLOWS ITS PRIOR RUN LEAVING BEHIND A SHEARED OUT MID LEVEL TROF OVER NWRN MEXICO BY DAY 5 SUN. NOT WILLING AT THIS TIME TO BUY OFF ON THE RADICAL CHANGE OF GFS TOWARDS THE CMC SOLUTION OF SHORTWAVE PHASING IN THE SRN HIGH PLAINS. WILL MAKE SOME MANUAL CHANGES TO SFC PROGS INCORPORATING THE POTENTIAL OF HOLDING WWD THE MEAN CONUS TROF DAYS 6 AND 7 WITH POSSIBLE GLFMEX SFC WAVE DEVELOPMENT. AN ELONGATED AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE NRN AND CENTRAL PLAINS DAY 3 FRI WILL BECOME MORE CONSOLIDATED WITH A MEAN LOW TRACKING EWD ACROSS SAT IL/IN/OH SAT EXITING OFF THE NY BIGHT/SRN NEW ENG COAST SAT NIGHT LEAVING BEHIND A SWATH OF LT SNOW TO TEH NORTH OF ITS TRACK. A TRAILING COLD FRONT WILL MOVE EWD FROM THE SRN PLAINS TO THE SERN SEABOARD SUN WHERE IT WILL SLOW AND AS PER RECENT ECMWF RUNS HAVE ENOUGH EJECTING MID LEVEL IMPULSE IN THE BASE OF THE TROF TO INDUCE A FRONTAL WAVE OR SERIES OF FRONTAL WAVES ALONG AND OFFSHORE OF THE SOUTHEAST COAST SUN INTO TUES. BUILDING EPAC/PAC NORTHWEST HTS END THE WET SPELL FOR THE PAC NORTHWEST REGION BY SHIFTING IT NWD INTO B.C. PAC HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE LOWER GREAT BASIN SRN AND CENTRAL ROCKIES OVER THE WEEKEND PROVIDING AN OFFSHORE FLOW EVENT/MODERATE SANTA ANA OVER CENTRAL AND SRN CA. FAIRLY STRONG COLD AIR SHORT DRIVES INTO THE PLAINS FRI AND SAT AND EWD TO THE ERN SEABOARD BY SUNDAY. ANOTHER POTENTIALLY MUCH STRONGER SURGE OF COLD AIR BEGINS TO NOSE SWD FROM WRN CANADA MON INTO THE DAKOTAS DAY 7 TUES AND DEEPER PLUNGE MID WEEK AS MOST GUIDANCE INDICATES AT LEAST A 1045 MB HIGH COMING SEWD OUT OF CANADA. ROSENSTEIN $$